with us today to talk about it is carol roth and bob. good to see you all. tobias, what do you think? are you hearing this is an issue? >> no, not even a word. we had the flash crash a few years ago. that sent a reverberation. >> and the night trading snafu a couple months ago. >> not to the same extent as the flash crash, obviously. >> do you not notice this is happening more frequently? >> certainly you can't miss that. for the average retail investor, it could be an issue. they kind of do a yikes moment and get over it. >> that's exactly the issue. the little guy feels like the game is rigged. when you have names like facebook and kraft, these are household names that they're paying attention to on a daily basis. when you see these things happen, that means there's less confidence from the retail investor. that's why we've seen a lot of money coming out of the market here. there's a by fur kags between the guys who are trading and the people investing. the little guy is looking at the investing, but he's getting caught up in the emotion. >> certainly does